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« on: July 04, 2006, 04:06:20 PM »


 Hi every body
today i was reading n the Quran abt the hijab for women, and in Verse 59 of Surah A1Ahzaab reads:
"O Prophet! T'ell thy wives and daughters and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when outside) : so that they should be known (as such) and not molested".

so what u pople say abt the Hijab for women in these days ? Girls r especialy requested to share their thoughts on this.

 
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2006, 05:43:51 PM »

...I have nothing to share except this:

1.An act of obedience.

The hijab is an act of obedience to Allah and to his prophet (pbuh), Allah says in the Qur'an: `It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His messenger have decreed a matter that they should have an option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, has indeed strayed in a plain error.' (S33:36).

Allah also said: 'And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinna.'(S24:31).

Juyubihinna: The respected scholars from As-Salaf As-Saleh (righteous predecessors) differed whether the veil cover of the body must include the hands and face or not. Today, respected scholars say that the hands and face must be covered. Other respected scholars say it is preferable for women to cover their whole bodies.

2.The Hijab is IFFAH (Modesty).

Allah (subhana wa'atala) made the adherence to the hijab a manifestation for chastity and modesty. Allah says: 'O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) over their bodies (when outdoors). That is most convenient that they should be known and not molested.' (S33:59). In the above Ayaah there is an evidence that the recognition of the apparent beauty of the woman is harmful to her. When the cause of attraction ends, the restriction is removed. This is illustrated in the case of elderly women who may have lost every aspect of attraction. Allah (swt) made it permissible for them to lay aside their outer garments and expose their faces and hands reminding, however, that is still better for them to keep their modesty.

3.The hijab is Tahara (Purity)

Allah (swt) had shown us the hikma (wisdom) behind the legislation of the hijab: `And when you ask them (the Prophet's wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and their hearts.' (S33:53).

The hijab makes for greater purity for the hearts of believing men and women because it screens against the desire of the heart. Without the hijab, the heart may or may not desire. That is why the heart is more pure when the sight is blocked (by hijab) and thus the prevention of fitna (evil actions is very much manifested. The hijab cuts off the ill thoughts and the greed of the sick hearts:

`Be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy or evil desire for adultery, etc) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.' (S33:32)

4.The hijab is a Shield

The prophet (pbuh) said: "Allah, Most High, is Heaven, is Ha'yeii (Bashful), Sit'teer (Shielder). He loves Haya' (Bashfulness) and Sitr (Shielding; Covering)." The Prophet (pbuh) also said: "Any woman who takes off her clothes in other than her husband's house (to show off for unlawful purposes), has broken Allah's shield upon her. "The hadith demonstrates that depending upon the kind of action committed there will be either reward (if good) or punishment (if bad).

5. The hijab is Taqwah (Righteousness)

Allah (swt) says in the Qur'an: `O children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover yourselves (screen your private parts, etc) and as an adornment. But the raiment of righteousness, that is better.'(S7:26). The widespread forms of dresses in the world today are mostly for show off and hardly taken as a cover and shield of the woman's body. To the believing women, however the purpose is to safeguard their bodies and cover their private parts as a manifestation of the order of Allah. It is an act of Taqwah (righteousness).

6.The hijab is Eemaan (Belief or Faith)

Allah (swt) did not address His words about the hijab except to the believing women, Al-Mo'minat. In many cases in the Qur'an Allah refers to the "the believing women". Aisha (RA), the wife of the prophet (pbuh), addressed some women from the tribe of Banu Tameem who came to visit her and had light clothes on them, they were improperly dressed: "If indeed you are believing women, then truly this is not the dress of the believing women, and if you are not believing women, then enjoy it."

7. The hijab is Haya' (Bashfulness)

There are two authentic hadith which state: "Each religion has a morality and the morality of Islam is haya'" AND "Bashfulness is from belief, and belief is in Al-Jannah (paradise)". The hijab fits the natural bashfulness which is a part of the nature of women.

8.The hijab is Gheerah

The hijab fits the natural feeling of Gheerah, which is intrinsic in the straight man who does not like people to look at his wife or daughters. Gheerah is a driving emotion that drives the straight man to safeguard women who are related to him from strangers. The straight MUSLIM man has Gheerah for ALL MUSLIM women In response to lust and desire, men look (with desire) at other women while they do not mind that other men do the same to their wives or daughters. The mixing of sexes and absence of hijab destroys the Gheera in men. Islam considers Gheerah an integral part of faith. The dignity of the wife or daughter or any other Muslim woman must be highly respected and defended.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 09:46:53 AM »

And this is also in Qur'Aan:

"You who believe, why do you say something that you cannot do." (Soorah Al Saff)
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 03:00:47 PM »


 her koi islam key point of view se keh raha hai.. app sub ko apney views dainey chahyea abt hijab .. like agher app ki wife hai, baiti hai, sister hai, mother hai ya koi bi hai, tu app key views kiyea ho gey Hijab key barey main..

 i will say key theek hai app ko hijab pahnana chahyea but asul parda app key dil main hota hai, lazmi nahi app ney full parda kiyea ho... kai larkiyea aisi hoti hai jinno ney full hijab kiyea hota hai but jub app un key kartute daikhey tu............ then kiyea faida aisey hijab ka ? 1-think

what u people say abt it?

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 06:09:53 PM »

Salamz to all....

Maira ap bilkul theek khae rahe hain.... mae sirf apnae eard girdh ka jaeza baata hoon....... us mae hijab bhi ajae ga...

Na tu mae mardoon ki side loon ga na aurtoon ki.

Qayamat ki kuch indications batata hoon...

Mard aurtoon ka roop dharain gae.

Shayad ap ku maloom hu kae her qayamat ki nishani ki aik inteha hae matlab hae ju shuru hu shuki hae aur inteha per nahi gai aur sirf starting hae... khair itni detail mae nahi jattae..

Aj aksariyat new generation kia ker rahi hae...
mae kahain doer ki baat nahi ker raha hoon apnae ass pass kae loggo ki baat ker raha hoon...

Mard

Ear rings phantae hain...
Baal lambae rakhnae lagae hain.
Shalwar, Qameez ya ju bhi phantae hain takhnau sae nichae
Azaan ku suni un suni ker datae hain sub bhool gae kae Sub sae Phelae Namaz ka poucha jae ga.
Dahari na rakhna aam hae... us mae bhi shamal hoon allah naik hidayat dae (ameen)

Aurtain Mard ka roop Dharain gi.

Aj Jeans phanae lagi hain...
T Shirts phanae lagi hain...
Baal ketwanae ka showk zadda hutta ja raha hae...
Takhnau sae upper aksariyat ki shalyaar hotti hae...

Aurtoon ku specially mana kia gaya hae kae esa kapra na phanae jiss mae jisaam numaya hu. tu jeans ka aur T shirts ka tu tasvoor hi nahi atta... Islam kae lihaaz sae....

Aik dafa mujh ku kesi indian nae mail keri aur us mae aik gane bajanae ka group tha wo ga raha thaa aur college, university ki larkiyan dance aur uchaal rahi theen aur wo bhi hoon gi 1000 kae qareeb aur pata hae us nae mujh sae kia sawaal kia?
us nae bola kae Pakistan tu muslim country hae aur muslim mae gana bajana mana hae aur yae sari larkiyaan kia ker rahi hain wahan, kia muslim asae hootae hain... Mae kia batoon dil tu chaha kae us ku paker kae maroon mager afsoos assa ker nahi sakta tha.... Lakin baad mae mujh ku waqqi sharmandagi hui....

Actually Yahan maslaa full Hijab ka nahi hae...

Alhamdulliah mae Hajj ker chuka hoon aur Umrah per bhi akser jatta rehta hoon aur mae nae Khanae Kaba mae dekha bhi hae...

Perda kerna zaroori hae lakin is sae murad yae nahi kae ap full pack hu ker nikalain... bus sirf itna karain kae..

ap kae sir kae baal achi tarhan covered hoon...
aur ju kuch bhi aurtain phenae us mae app ka jisam numaya na hu...
takhnau sae upper shalwar kabhi na hu,
pardae ka matlab yae nahi kae app upper sae nichae taak black yaani yash maker baan jain...

Aur agar ap waqi Islam kae tariqae ku follow kerna chatti hain tu Deenae alam ya ju bhi hu but us ku complete knowledge honi chahiyae kae paradae kae kia sharayat hain tu us sae ja ker pochain.. wo batain gae mae tu aik na cheese hoon...

Aur bohat si batain hain agar khena gaya tu poori book likhni parae gi filhaal itna hi kaffi hae... aur kuch galat bola hu tu Maffi chahta hoon....


Aurtain aesa kapra phenae gi ju na hunae kae barabar hu ga...

Matlab aj kal ap market mae ladies kapra laene jain tu dekhae kae wo itna light hoota hae kae na hunae kae baraber....

is mae aurtoon ka kusoor nahi kapra bananae waloon ka kusoor hae..
mager hum sub ku khood khayal rakhna chahiyae her cheese ka kae kia galat hae kia nahi allah nae sub ku akal di hae...

Gana Bajana Aam hujae ga... Her gher sae mosiqi ki awaz sunai dae gi...

Puranae Zamanae mae mard loog Tawaivo kae khootae per jatae thae naach dekhnae,
Aj wo doar khatam hu gaya hae ap ku her cheese TV, Dish per mil jatti hae...
Aur aj ju doar araha hae kae Maan, Baap, Beta, Behnae Sub bheat ker films dekh rahae hutae hain... mager koi yae nahi souchta kae is poori film ka kia matlab hae....
aur yaqeenan us mae nach gana aur dressing bhi kaafi haad tak sahi nahi hooti....
 
Bilkul Sach Sach ap loog kudh sochain kae kabhi itnae shook sae apnae Rasool (PBUH) kae history kae barae mae janae ki koshish karii hae... mae kesi ku bura nahi bool raha hoon (allah mujh ku bhi hidayat dae) lakin mae janta hoon kae aksariyat ka na mae jawab milae ga... Allah hum sub ku naik aur sidhi rah dekhae aur aik sacha momin muslim banae (Ameen)
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 02:53:59 PM »

 Faizi app ney tu aj key dore key barey main sub kuch keh diyea na key sirf hijab key barey main...

 yaha baat sirf yeh nahi hai key app india key muslims ho ,pakistan key ya kahi key bi..  hum sub ka aik honey key liyea sirf yehi kafi hai key hum muslims hai.. and theek hai pakistan aik islamic country hai nd yaha bi kuch cheezey ghair islami hoti hai.. jo aik muslim country main nahi honi chahyea... Agher yeah baat kartey ho tu phir Saudia ya other Arab coutries bi tu daikho waha ka environment kaisa hai ?
i dont know much abt those countries, but suni sunai batey hi hain.. Saudia jiss ko islam ka gher samjha jata hai waha Makkah and madinah jaisey muqadus places bi hain.. phir bi agher app un logo ko hum se companre karo tu app ko khud samjh a jaey gi key kon bahtur hai.... ?

ny way main phir yehi kahu gi key her larki aik jaisi nahi hoti,,, app chahyea hijab pehney ya na pehney, kissi bi country se ho,  app apney dil se paak-o-saaf honi chahyea..
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 03:39:19 PM »

hmm i dont think i should comment on this topic.....buh i agree with maira, but i dont no if i should coz im not lyk that
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 06:40:24 PM »

Ms. Maira...

Mae khood Saudia mae hoon aur mae sarri un jagoon per bhi hu ker achuka hoon jahan ki aap baat ker rahee hain aur allah ka shuker hae doosrii countries sae kaafi bhetaar hae….. aur mae kudh aik British kae kaam kerta hoon ju yahan per rehatae wae hi muslim hua hae, aur akser Pakistan ki tareef bhi kerta rehta hae… Mae khudh aik Pakistani hu aur mae kabhi nahi chahoon ga kae marae country ki koi buri karae, chahae wo aurat hu ya mard hu ya bacha hu……

Mae nae kesi larki ki burai nahi ki, balakae mujhae proud hae apnae Pakistan per kae wahan abhi bhi hamarae Country ki Khawateen samhajdaar hain jasae kae app Heer aur jitnae dost hain un kae khayalat sae andaza hoota hae  kae hamarae mulk kae loog khass toor per new generation abhi bhi kaffi haaad achain hain dusroon ki nazaroon mae....

Mae abhi sirf yae bolta hoon kae maree baat samhajnae ki koshish karain kae mae kia khana chaha raha hoon mera koi maqsaad nahi kae larkioon ku nichae dekhaan ka mae dresses ku bhater kerna ki baat ker raha tha larkiyoon kae ager sub dress sahi phanae gi tu is ka matlab perdda hi hua…

Maera matlab asa dress nahi hu ju bohat zada tight hu aur half sleeve bhi na huoon rupata must hu bus 2 sae 3 chizaoon ki baat hae… aur kia hae….

Khair ager koi baat buri laagi hu tu maffi chahtaa hoon app sub sae….(Allah Hum sub ku naik hidayat dae (amen)

Madina mae kaffi daafa gaya hoon aur eid bhi wahin kerta hoon,

Madina kae loog bohat achae hutae hain her lihaaz sae agaer ap ka koi janae wala wahan hu tu un sae pouch saktii hain kae Madina kae loog kesae hutae hain….

Makkah
Makkah bhi akser jana hu rehta hae, wahan kae log bhi theek hae bus aik kharabi hae ghusae walae bohat hutae hain….

Yahan wo hi baat atti hae jesae app boliti hain kae her larki aik jassei nahi hutti Yaqeenan ap 100 % sahi hain, her jaga loog bhi koi kharab nahi hutae…
Khair bus hum sub ku apnae mulk apnae musalmanoo kae liyae dua kertae rehna chahiyae kae allah naik hidyat dae aur sacha momin banae (ameen).




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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2006, 10:48:14 AM »


 faizi app theek keh rahey ho...  main khud personally bi aisey dress key boht against houn jo boht tite ho ya app ki body cmpletely cover na karta ho..

 theek hai larkiyea burqa agher nahi pehnana chahti tu but atleast apni body ko cover ker key tu rakhey.... na key tite dress pehney ya sleeveless pehney...
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2006, 01:41:03 PM »

Thanks Ms. Maira...

App nae meri baat samhajnae ki koshish keri...
Bus hum sub ku dua karinae chahiyae kae allah hum muslim ku apnae hifz wa amaan mae rakhae... aur her tarhan kae shatani amal sae bachae... (ameen)....

Warna tu ajj kal ka mahool bohat taizi sae tabdeel hu raha hae ana wala waqt kia dekhaee pata nahi,

Wasae haqiqatan ager ap islamic books uthain kesi ki bhi tu us mae asani sae sub mill jae ga kae auraat banae aur sawarnae ku boola gaya hae lakin sirf apnae shoher (Husband) ku dekhanae kae liyae na kae duniya waloon ku.... nahi kae na mehram ku... lakin ajj kaal koi chahta hi nahi kae knowledge lae sub ku sub kuch wo hi acha lagta hae ju un kae mutabiq hae, shayad yae hi waja hae kae deenae Islam mae itnae Firkae bantae ja rahae hain ..... Bus Allah hum sub aik aur sidhi raha dekhae (Ameen) kuch galat kaha tu phir maffi chahta hoon....

 
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2006, 06:33:11 PM »


 and sath main inn boys key liyea bi dua karo key allah inney bi naik hadait dey..

 sirf larkiyea hi ghunaghar nahi hain ..  image09
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2006, 07:36:45 PM »

Off course Heer Jee allah hum sub ku naik hidayat dae (ameen)

Sub sae bara tu mae apnae ap ku samhajta hoon mazak apni jaga, mae tu sub kae liye dua kerta hoon kae allah hum mard aurtaoon aur anae waloo ku naik aur sacha momin insaan banae (ameen)


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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2006, 11:06:21 AM »


 Faizi Baba Dua wala...  Happy
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2006, 11:27:11 AM »

Shukriya aik aur Laqab denae ka.... Yasin Bahi......

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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2006, 12:31:16 PM »

salamz friendz....

very gud topic,
lakin eik baat main bhi share karna chanu ga ke, balkay yeah eik real story hai.. 14/7/2006, evening

main or mera cousin eik hotel main gay, wahan par eik couple phalay se hi tha...or us larki ne burka phana huwa tha... konfused

i agree with this statement of maira....(ny way main phir yehi kahu gi key her larki aik jaisi nahi hoti,,, app chahyea hijab pehney ya na pehney, kissi bi country se ho,  app apney dil se paak-o-saaf honi chahyea.. )





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